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Lyonel

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  1. 44 minutes ago, Kelvin said:

    1 question would be if I have to specify a team why does "team" "=" "list of all teams" work but "team" "!=" "1 team" not return any requests.

    @dwalby because of your setup (probably very similar to mine), securities still apply. Unless you list all the teams, the system will automatically filter on the teams you belong to, then apply the "team != XYZ" to your sub set (or the other way around). But if you specify all teams, then you effectively override the securities. That's my understanding of the system anyway.

    @Victor can probably confirm. After all, I am just a host :P

     

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  2. Hi,

    I am trying to take advantage of the new features, but I am struggling a bit... I have a form where I ask the user "which software do you need". If the answer is "Adobe Creative Cloud" then I display the form below:

    image.png.ff88dd5a9a09d78373a9eb85fb3b4d1d.png

    If "Other" is selected, I want the user to specify => here comes my dynamic field. I managed to get this to work just fine :)

    image.png.cd437191b88c988d98ad55ea95b419ed.png

    My problem is when I have more than 1 checkbox ticked:

    image.png.edf40574ee550e19075410b9bc2fc616.png

    As you can see the dynamic field disappear...

    Here is rule setup:

    image.png.4bb3f0835405b8960bb1d0d5bd01de7c.png

    And the list setup:

    image.png.250a3dad857e0ea6ea55fcfeedd8b4b6.png

    Is anybody doing something similar? Am I missing something?

  3. 22 minutes ago, Victor said:

    an alternative to having this huge criteria would be to use IS NOT instead of IS...

     

    That is true :P It depends on your setup and how you use team assignments I guess. In my case, I cannot use the IS NOT as a request can technically be assigned to any team (and I don't trust humans)

     

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  4. If my understanding of @Kelvin's setup is correct, we are in a similar situation: we never use "Supporting teams" on our services, and therefore everybody can see everything by default.

    When using the search feature in the request list (advanced search and custom views) however, some sort of "security" applies (like @Victor) mentioned. Indeed, if the filter "team" is not specified in the query then only requests assigned to the teams I belong to will be displayed.

    The workaround is to add a filter on "team" and add ALL teams. Then you will see everything as per your filters.

    So practical example:

    Custom view / search filters are set to:

    image.png.227c15f1ade75eb60db811942455d8b7.png

    I do not belong to any of the teams who have requests under these services => Returns 0 requests.

    If I had ALL the teams setup in the system:

    image.png.f1d93329b20312fac94918feed9cdbd1.png

    then I get the records back.

    Hope this helps?

  5. Sorry to revive this thread, but instead of creating a new one I will reuse this one (the title is exactly what I was looking for).

    I tried implementing the "Post to Workspace" method but I am hitting an error message...

    image.png.2f05305f0023cb940bcbf32c1fb679a6.png

    Here is my BPM

    image.thumb.png.46fd7687a503fa64d0a9ea6b11021b56.png

    and my workspace settings:

    image.png.a0fe5019ec9164f9309b00221e1d397c.png

    image.png.88b3283d40e4c6bc5fa6787f5d779021.png

    Am I missing something?

  6. 2 hours ago, Gerry said:

    Unless you force the issue, ultimately people will continue to do whats easier for them.  I would include a notice in every email response from the service desk communicating a date, at which point emails will no longer be expected, make that date a reasonable time in the future but set the date.  On that date, simply bounce all emails with a clear instruction and link to the self-service page so people can then go and raise the request there.

    I know that sounds harsh but there really is not any other way.

    That's the approach I am taking and fighting with management over... Eventually we will get there!

    Based on the INSIGHTS event, I got a few good ideas on how to start changing peoples' mind:

    • Step 1: add a very visual and attractive footer to all the templates we use in Hornbill, redirecting to the self service portal
    • Step 2: setup an automatic response from the mailbox(es) with the same footer as mentioned above or a variation of
    • Step 3: Display a strong warning about the end of mailboxes monitoring and requests creation, planned long in advance (e.g. From 1st June 2019, we will stop....) => pending management approval.

    It is not perfect, but it is a start...

  7. I actually mentioned that particular challenge with Hornbill staff and other customers during the INSIGHTS event last Wednesday.

    In my opinion, there should be multiple options:

    • The analyst uses the "e-mail" tab within the request to send an email to the customer
    • The system should send an e-mail automatically (using a custom template) every time a new update (or comment) is done with visibility "Customer" or "Public" on a request

    By such mechanism, we can choose which way we want to approach notifications.

    (A notification bell on the future "employee" portal could also be an idea?)

    At the moment, I am fighting to get rid of e-mails... In the mean time, I have advised my analysts to post updates as actual updates and send an e-mail to the customer using a snippet and custom email template:

    image.png.5349230edee18030b7480de890f6f53e.png

    Far from ideal, but better than nothing.

    My biggest challenge is getting my analysts to stop using email altogether... Success rate at the moment is extremely limited I have to admit. Should we have some of the options I mentioned above, it would considerable change things.

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