dwalby Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 Hi all, Currently our analysts spend a lot of time chasing customers/users for a response for additional information or confirmation of resolution. Is it possible to build a BPM that can automatically send a chase e-mail to the customer and/or reminders for the analysts to call the user? We generally work on a 3-strike rule, if the user hasn't responded or we've been unable to get in contact with them after 3 attempts (via phone, IM or e-mail) we then resolve/close the call. I'd also be interested to understand how others approach handling requests which remain open due to a lack of response from customer. Thanks in advance
nasimg Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 Hi @Dwalby We haven't automated this (but good idea) - we have a 3 strike rule, try and contact the customer (make sure you update the ticket to say so) then resolve. In between the chases I suggest putting the ticket on hold (so you don't lose SLA). Nasim
Dan Munns Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 @dwalby We also use the three strikes rule. We have on hold statuses of 'Strike 1' and 'Strike 2' after that the analyst emails to say why the call has been closed and closes the call. We also do 'We tried to contact you...' emails from snippets after each attempt at contact so people can't say 'You never called me.....' Unless we are told otherwise (annual leave / sick) we will try at three different times on three days during the week and after that it's closed. We don't hold calls open with no contact for any longer than 5 days. It would be useful for emails to be sent based on a substatus being set, i.e. Call placed on 'Strike 1' substatus - Send 'Strike 1' email template to customer but to be honest I think that is a little niche and the snippet provide a two click email which is logged on the timeline.
samwoo Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 20 hours ago, Dan Munns said: It would be useful for emails to be sent based on a substatus being set, i.e. Call placed on 'Strike 1' substatus - Send 'Strike 1' email template to customer but to be honest I think that is a little niche and the snippet provide a two click email which is logged on the timeline. What a fantastic idea!!! ++++++1 Like having an action set, where we can define actions that can occur when a sub-status is set
Victor Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 21 hours ago, Dan Munns said: It would be useful for emails to be sent based on a substatus being set, i.e. Call placed on 'Strike 1' substatus - Send 'Strike 1' email template to customer but to be honest I think that is a little niche and the snippet provide a two click email which is logged on the timeline. @samwoo @Dan Munns this can be done... not with sub-statuses but can be done...
nasimg Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 Hi @Victor Don't keep us in suspense - how??? I'm interested in this one too. Nasim
Keith Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 This is exactly what I have been trying to develop in a BPM whereby I have nested "wait status change" requests with expiry times, with each sending an email. However there is a problem with the timers not getting reset which Hornbill are looking into - @Victor is aware of this (or do you have a better solution?) See this thread
Victor Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 @nasimg well... I don't want to keep you in suspense but with so many people now interested I got stressed ... I should have never said it (joking) So, just to understand this right, the idea is that when sub-ststus changes, an email is automatically sent... the email that is sent depends on the sub-status... did I get this right?
Dan Munns Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 @Victor got it in one. I set a sub status of 'Waiting for 3rd party supplier' and an email telling the user that we are waiting for delivery (via an email template) is automatically sent. So many times i have seen tickets like "On hold.....off hold.....email sent to customer.....on hold....." because someone forgot to let the customer know something
Victor Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 @all I am still working on this, as soon as I have a working example I will post a copy of the BP configuration. Apologies for delays.
Victor Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 @dwalby @nasimg @Dan Munns @samwoo @Keith I know you thought I forgot about this thread, I didn't ... I did manage to create a "self-sustained" chasing mechanism not using multi "wait for status change" nodes but is it quite convoluted making use of statuses and sub-statuses and I didn't like it... ... However, now the fix for multi "wait for status change" nodes is available so the auto chasing mechanism should be easy to build
nasimg Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 @Victor Thanks for the update....and yes I had forgotten about
Keith Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 @Victor I might be confused (it happens a lot) but I'm not sure what "fix" has been applied. However, having just tested my multi stage closure as per the below topic I still do not get past the first instance of sending a mail. Has the issue with the timer being missing after the first expiry been fixed? 17 hours ago, Victor said: However, now the fix for multi "wait for status change" nodes is available so the auto chasing mechanism should be easy to build Regards Keith
Victor Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 @Keith it seems I was talking rubbish ... ... The fix is not yet in live instances, it will be on the next Service manager update... I have no idea why I thought it was already available... I am sorry *sniff... 1
Keith Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 @Victor Ah, we all make mistakes. Any idea on timescale, I was due to chase you on this
Steve Giller Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 From another post I believe I read that the next SM update is due in a couple of days. 1
Victor Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 @Keith @DeadMeatGF yes, anytime now... should be deployed, I think, early next week...
dwalby Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 Has anyone successfully managed to configure this following the recent update. I'm hoping to give it a try over the next few days/weeks.
Keith Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, dwalby said: Has anyone successfully managed to configure this following the recent update. I'm hoping to give it a try over the next few days/weeks. Yes I have this configured on a couple of services and tested it successfully but not published to live just yet..
dwalby Posted April 24, 2018 Author Posted April 24, 2018 @Keith @Dan Munns Did either of you manage to create a BPM for auto-chase? I need to give it another crack myself but wanted to know whether you'd had any success.
samwoo Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 In relation to the original idea in the first post, maybe this could work in conjunction with.... But outside of the BPM
Keith Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 On 4/24/2018 at 8:22 AM, dwalby said: @Keith @Dan Munns Did either of you manage to create a BPM for auto-chase? I need to give it another crack myself but wanted to know whether you'd had any success. @dwalby yes I have implemented this successfully on a couple of services. It's pretty easy to setup. I use the await status change functionality with an expiry date so that if it expires it triggers an email and resets another await status change event. I also use a different email template for each successive letter with stronger wording. Whilst I don;t have any hard evidence I think this has been effective and resulted in more closures. See the below thread for clearer explanation.
dwalby Posted June 22, 2018 Author Posted June 22, 2018 @Keith - Thanks for this (sorry for the late reply!). Just so I understand the logic. Presumably when an analyst e-mails or speaks with a customer and agrees to the put the call on-hold, the analyst uses the e-mail function then manually changes the sub-status to "Awaiting Customer Response" (Or similar) at which point the "Await Status Change" node kicks in that expires after a set number of days, then fires a chase e-mail? With regards to your chase e-mail, does this contain the message from the original e-mail but also explain the 3-strike rule?
Keith Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 @dwalby - My process is based around the need for a user to close (or reopen) a request after it has been marked as resolved so is a rather different. Essentially I set a wait status after setting to resolved then after a number of days send an automated reminder if the status has not changed. The problem I think you will find is that the Await Status change does not work on sub statuses (at least as far as know). My emails use a different template in each case with increasingly stronger wording.
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